schoon s paper

http://www.drschoon.com/articles/CollapsePaperMoneyVerticalMoveOfGold.pdf



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[9/4/2015, 7:29 AM] +91 99714 07788: 1...The way the nation s monetary system is managed is SIGNIFICANTLY different in different countries/nations/currency areas ,
eg , USA ,...UK ,.... EEC ,...
 Germany ,
 India , Russia , China ,
 Japan ,etc ,..

2.... India (1947-1950), Russia (around 1991) , China , Japan , were forced to sign treaties , that are approved by their Contitutions ,
that gave away credit creation independence to their imperial masters ,
-respectively,- to UK then USA after bretton woods 1945 updated via  Jamaica 1972 . ...

3... the currency s issued by each of India , Russia , China , Japan are currency s of OCCUPIED COUNTRIES ,( -same as USA now manages the currency in Libya after occupying Libya in 2014-, or the way England managed the Rupee and banking ,eg , gold reserves , foreign exchange rates , bill discounting via London etc. in India say 1850-1950 ),

 and

each currency/credit  is issued/managed under full (selfish ) control of USA-IMF fully as USA-IMF is  the OCCUPIER ( IMPERIAL ) master of such counties .

 UK is a special case ...

EEC/EURO is also an OCCUPIED "country " in terms of the amount of credit that EEC CB central bank can issue

,-including decisions as whether the credit money will be used for
 a-sustainable employment or  b-asset appreciation bubbles  or c-or for loaning to IMF-suggested loan takers like India who in turn  end up becoming debt slaves to electronic money  .  ................
Posted by Ravi Garg at 6:51
[9/4/2015, 7:29 AM] +91 99714 07788: your impression that ,

that sovereign debt loan achieved by Mr. Modi in Dubai  comes from oil wealth savings , and that no country including India can create its own sovereign money
if you read as per flwg link

http://www.financialexpress.com/article/economy/india-among-top-5-sovereign-em-debt-issuers-moodys/129536/

it will show that so called term sovereign debt 'it' does not constitute savings of a Govt. ,
 it refers to money borrowed by a Govt. from its Central Bank ,
the central bank creates electronic money loan to the Govt. against a promissory note / bond issued by the Govt . ,

ha ha
same applies to Abu Dhabi Govt , they also borrow from their central bank
ha ha
and that money shall then be loaned to India at somewhat higher interest ..
ha ha
so what is limiting Indian Govt to borrow more from Indian Central Bank CB for short , ha ha .. Mr Rajan gets salary from IMF to say no to Modi s Govt ,

ha ha

And
The most important insight ...

why should a sovereign Govt. need to borrow new electronically created money against its pro note given to its CB
is RBI on parliament St a deptt. under our sovereign elected Govt . or not ? or is RBI chairman a conduit to arrange Indians to pay interest to foreign insttns . ?

what is to stop our pm or fin min ,from creating equal amount of money by making an entry in the Consolidated fund of India , and after some time , equal to the loan period granted by say abudhabi , fin min could simply erase same amount from its Consolidated account .

no trips to Abu Dhabi and our country shall save huge  interest payable in foreign exchange .

sir ,
Even advanced country s sovereign funds are ' manufactured ', ad per IMF whims on the press of electronic buttons !
[9/4/2015, 7:43 AM] i. M Jayaram M, bangalore: Nooni
Rajiv is a research scientist and in our terminology a leftist with a conscience. His theories will start with American ways and then reach what we think after a series of connected and unconnected theories.
I forwarded his message to U jus to tell U that there is one more of our classmates who dates to think differently
Rajiv ' contacts
rajiv.bhushan@gmail.com
Mob : +1 (408) 561-8067
Res: +1 (650) 331-1115
Skype : rajivbhushan
[9/4/2015, 7:48 AM] i. M Jayaram M, bangalore: And I do not necessarily agree with all his views. I however appreciate his different approach.
In monetary economics my beliefs are obvious to you.
[9/4/2015, 10:10 AM] +91 99714 07788: It seems to me repeat seems to me that there is a small specific group A of ' countries '  ..( USA UK Japan EEC- with high weightage to France, Germany ) .. that have consciously created / stumbled on to monetary theory . the interest of these countries and their ideas of managing only their economies , is in conflict with rest of the world countries group B . Group A manages to live off the hard work , low wages , poverty , of group B countries .as a small corollary , maybe within group A also their middle class is getting marginalised slowly .  within group B , there is a miniscule  group mostly the corrupt that is able to extract wealth into tax havens controlled by group A ... the tax havens wealth is estimated at Dlrs trillion 20 to 30 .
the international elite I E  meaning the rich in groups A and B , have succeeded in creating a grip over USA army and the FRS system including IMF  , and thru it the IE already controls almost all group B , barring some potential of fight back by China ,Russia mainly .

the economics principals as implemented in group A are different than in group B .
[9/4/2015, 10:36 AM] +91 99714 07788: in Russian literature , IE is different from grp A , and grp B is yet separate entity to be exploited by the IE using the military and FRS IMF ,and via  country wise treaties signed with grp B  countries with IMF.
these treaties are not advertised by IMF though these are taught to new country heads recruits into IMF and are available here and there on the web .

Almost 99% of the videos and blogs on the web , try to make sense of the policies of the FRS from the interest point of view of the middle class in grp A ,
while not seeing the hidden hand of the IE within the FRS system , this IE hand that rocks the IMF FRS from within is even disinterested in the middle class of its own countries eg USA UK Japan Germany France- EEC !!!

so the blogs in USA lime Peter Schiff , Hudson , Alastair MacLeod , varifoukis , celente , Rickards , and many many others are confused why the FRS system has not broken down since 2008 Aug till now ...

the middle class of grp A is being thrown to the dustbin alongside dustbin of grpB let me label this as grp DB aka dustbin group .

Read or see video by Joan Veon , where she explains the UN s World Govt. program ,
imp. read about UN s agenda 21 since 1945 that inter alia every year publishes progress reports on its success in reducing world population in another 80 or so years to only 1 billion total or less , thru induced infertility amongst other methods !
our Rajan has also written praises for one world Govt program of UN , that includes pop. reduction without asking Russia India etc , !

the IE serves itself and in future a  severely reduced number in grp A , thus the nomenclature International Elite .
hoax economics is keeping grp DB confused thru blogs discussing gold prices , inflation deflation etc.
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[9/4/2015, 10:10 AM] +91 99714 07788: It seems to me repeat seems to me that there is a small specific group A of ' countries '  ..( USA UK Japan EEC- with high weightage to France, Germany ) .. that have consciously created / stumbled on to monetary theory . the interest of these countries and their ideas of managing only their economies , is in conflict with rest of the world countries group B . Group A manages to live off the hard work , low wages , poverty , of group B countries .as a small corollary , maybe within group A also their middle class is getting marginalised slowly .  within group B , there is a miniscule  group mostly the corrupt that is able to extract wealth into tax havens controlled by group A ... the tax havens wealth is estimated at Dlrs trillion 20 to 30 .
the international elite I E  meaning the rich in groups A and B , have succeeded in creating a grip over USA army and the FRS system including IMF  , and thru it the IE already controls almost all group B , barring some potential of fight back by China ,Russia mainly .

the economics principals as implemented in group A are different than in group B .in Russian literature , IE is different from grp A , and grp B is yet separate entity to be exploited by the IE using the military and FRS IMF ,and via  country wise treaties signed with grp B  countries with IMF.
these treaties are not advertised by IMF though these are taught to new country heads recruits into IMF and are available here and there on the web .

Almost 99% of the videos and blogs on the web , try to make sense of the policies of the FRS from the interest point of view of the middle class in grp A ,
while not seeing the hidden hand of the IE within the FRS system , this IE hand that rocks the IMF FRS from within is even disinterested in the middle class of its own countries eg USA UK Japan Germany France- EEC !!!

so the blogs in USA lime Peter Schiff , Hudson , Alastair MacLeod , varifoukis , celente , Rickards , and many many others are confused why the FRS system has not broken down since 2008 Aug till now ...

the middle class of grp A is being thrown to the dustbin alongside dustbin of grpB let me label this as grp DB aka dustbin group .

Read or see video by Joan Veon , where she explains the UN s World Govt. program ,
imp. read about UN s agenda 21 since 1945 that inter alia every year publishes progress reports on its success in reducing world population in another 80 or so years to only 1 billion total or less , thru induced infertility amongst other methods !
our Rajan has also written praises for one world Govt program of UN , that includes pop. reduction without asking Russia India etc , !

the IE serves itself and in future a  severely reduced number in grp A , thus the nomenclature International Elite .
hoax economics is keeping grp DB confused thru blogs discussing gold prices , inflation deflation etc.


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[9/14/2015, 12:20 PM] +91 99714 07788: Very impressive .
I admit I do NOT understanding operational banking .

My imm . response is
Why in h***hell is Govt. of India waiting
even one day one hour to notify this scheme ,
it seems that the babu s are really stupid or are sleeping .
I ll try to forward is as letter to editor , if i can soon

MJ ,
really help me understand
why this scheme has not yet been implemented !!!!

Modi is going all over world asking begging for what will be hot money !!

Sad .

R
[9/14/2015, 4:31 PM] +91 99714 07788: there are 3 issues .
1.  finding money to put in economy  ( emission)
2.   avoiding HUGE distortions due interest on new money .
3.  HUGE complexity in evaluating which new projects shall be non consumption , non speculation , and that shall enable sustainable ( local ? ) employment .

Now , your solution will be fast accepted instead of my suggestion ,- that fresh new electronic credit entry be made by fin. ministry at zero interest .

Now , your suggestion will still create distortions due interest , though on lower scale ,coz the volume of new money shall get limited by gold in hand .

Now , this 3 rd issue remains ..and you and I must teach society how to rank projects for loans .

Now , less imp. for debate between you n me , I want to put on notice board that sometime later we can debate and eliminate the gold backing issue , ONLY and EASILY if we can lay down norms for 3rd issue above .

eg building a road ... does it help in commerce or for consumption social luxury ?
eg ... billing in rupees vs billing in dollars for exports , etc etc

you have kind of covered this by suggesting a newer hierarchy of governance . I love it .

in process , later
[9/16/2015, 10:50 AM] +91 99714 07788: gold bugs aka gold price rise forecasters have been negated since 2008 till now . over millennia of wars and currency dilution s , gold. (used to )  maintain ed its value .
Now ,
let us look at possibility.

some type of world war or Dollar reorganizing or Dollar crash happens ...

I think p1 chances ten % , gold will go up only if the crash event is not planned for by the new world Govt. if crash planned by new world Govt then gold will go down .

those who think that new world Govt is not preplanning a crash , they think gold will rise and rise . I agree in such case only .this is p2 group .I am not in p2 bcoz united Nations agenda 21 pl read to reduce world population by 80 % in 70 years . also USA power is so big that even China Germany Japan cannot speak up
about Dollar hegemony .

the issue is not
what is right , for world .

issue is , does USA have comparative power. , yes , in my subjective opinion.
[9/16/2015, 11:03 AM] +91 99714 07788: